. >> i know the language has been susan rice as one possibility. susan rice, obviously, we've got the benghazi problem associated with her, whether or not that's over. then the other one, of course, is john kerry of massachusetts. the problem is if you pull kerry down from massachusetts, there is a guy walking around massachusetts right now who would like a senate seat, right? you could totally end up with a situation of him running again? any sense of how the president might negotiate that decision? >> no sense at all. you know, kerry has been widely known to covet this job for a long time. speaking for myself, i always thought he would make a fine secretary of state. in the old-fashioned sense of who would do a good job, this is someone i think who showed us when he was a presidential candidate in the senate, he would be a wonderful secretary of state. but you create this political problem. we've seen how one vote in the senate can make such a difference. it's hard to know how to solve it. >> the speech to the dnc felt like an audition. it looks